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Diabetic Girl Dies While Parents Pray…

On Sunday in the Town of Weston, near Wausau, 11-year-old Madeline Kara Neumann died of diabetic ketoacidosis, a treatable though serious condition of type 1 diabetes in which acid builds up in the blood.Neumann’s parents said they didn’t know she had diabetes. They didn’t take her to a doctor. They prayed for healing.

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=732626

I hope the parents get charged with Manslaughter. The girl had not been to the doctor since she was three years old. This is utterly disgusting and if a parent had done that and had been an atheist, they would be arrested and charged with neglect, child abuse and manslaughter.

12 Responses

  1. Thistmay be true , and I agree that the parents should be charged. But what about the athiest who takes their child to the hospital but, without the benefit of faith and prayer the doctor’s are not able to save her. Should they be charged for child neglect for NOT praying?

  2. wtf? That makes no sense. No they will be charged with neglect period. Nothing to do with praying, since praying is doesn;t work. If an atheist child died after being taken to hospital has nothing to do with not praying or not, it just happened. These parents neglected to give their child at least a chance of suriviving by taking her to the doctor and hosptial. If praying did work the child would be alive.

  3. Prayers aren’t always answered immediately, nor are we given exactly what we ask when we want it. While this may be difficult to understand from an athiest perspective, God has a will and a plan for everyone and sometimes, despite our most fervent prayers, things don’t happen according to plan.

    On another note, people die in hospitals every day due to misdiagnosis from doctors. Should doctors be charged?

  4. Prayer had a dramatic effect in saving my life when I was in a coma with meningococcal meningitis, so I’m certainly not going to rule it out of any healing process with regard to my own kids…
    … that said, if the child was exhibiting symptoms of a serious illness, she should have been taken to a doctor.

  5. This is sickening.
    These morons should be treated as animals. Lock them up in a good strong cage and throw the key away. Then they can pray as much as they want.
    I’m sick of idiots who believe in a sky buddy, in non sense stories and kill for their stupid selfish interest.
    Religion is simply conditional delusion in other words a mental illness.

  6. Don’t knock praying just because you don’t believe. While I believe prayer works, I also KNOW that GOD wants us to help ourselves also. I’m glad here parents have so much faith in GOD but I do believe that while they were praying they should have taken her to the doctor and kept praying that those doctors would heal her. After all, GOD put doctors here for a reason. He uses them for HIS purposes. Prayer works and I know it does. Even doctors can’t explain somethings when miracles happen from praying. Religion is not a delusion and i am tired of people who don’t believe in GOD trying to drown out the faith of them that do. If you don’t believe, that’s you, but alot of people do believe in the power of prayer

  7. Donna,
    So what exactly are you saying? If prayer worked that girl would be alive today. Obviously, it didn’t work. But wait. Now you say people have to see a doctor who will treat them. You know, just in case if praying is not working… You are delusional, a hypocrite and a liar.

  8. look,
    while i agree that many religious institutions, as well as, science, only try to PREDICT in order to CONTROL. i believe that there is a God and prayer works! i can bare witness to that.
    just because you dont believe in something that does not mean it doesnt exist-or in this case, that it doesnt work.
    lastly, if this would have happened to an atheist it wouldnt have changed a thing. no jail time, no discrimination. since when is it a crime not to bring your child to the hospital when you make a wrong decision believeing nothing is wrong?

  9. Gidday there,

    Want to do the ‘link’ exchange thing ?

    Cheers.

    Paul (on behalf of Canterbury Atheists)
    http://canterburyatheists.blogspot.com/

  10. Unfortunately all of the studies done show that prayer has no effect on ill people. People recover from meningitis when treated by doctors, so how can qdaybloke prove that it was prayer that affected his recovery? We see people at huge prayer meetings being healed in great numbers, yet we never hear of follow-ups and doctors saying, “yes it was incurable, but now the disease is gone!!” Mis-diagnosis, the bodies ability to heal it’self and a fair bit of lying play a big part in this “healing”

  11. Somehow i missed the point. Probably lost in translation :) Anyway … nice blog to visit.

    cheers, Profusion.

  12. I hope their grief is amerliorised by the thought that they wil probably meet her in heaven. That said, I would hit them with several heavy books.

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